Inspection Time

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Inspection Time

postby DaleNixon » 11/02/13 @ 10:23

I'm sitting here sweating bullets in the inspection station. I've got evap system codes I'm trying to hide.

Talk about state inspection victories and losses here.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby Mazduh » 11/02/13 @ 11:21

I always go to the inspection center in the ghetto. They don't give two shits. All they do it plug in and check for obd2 and then send you on your way.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby revlimiter » 11/02/13 @ 11:35

I set my ECU super lean for idle and 2500 zones and the fans to turn on a few degrees higher. It burns cleaner than stock that way. No problems passing yet.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby bigx5murf » 11/02/13 @ 12:13

I've heard the evap codes only come on when the gas needle is at specific points (1/4 and 3/4), so it should be possible to keep your gas level away from those point, and the monitors should finish other tests, the 1 evap not ready should be let go.

To actually fix the evap code issue permanently is about $130-$200 or possibly $330 in parts, PM me if you want more details. BTW, the $130 part i tried to find salvage, no go, every salvage shop told me, yea everytime we try to remove one of those we break it.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby DaleNixon » 11/02/13 @ 16:55

^ phunny you mention that. I kept my tank topped off for about 200 miles never letting it drop below 85% capacity after I reset the code which I believe is where the evap system check happens.

I passed inspection! I know the P0455 (large evap leak) will come back once I start running through a tank of gas again.

Ugh. I replaced the purge solenoid valve a while back hoping I'd get lucky, but the code returned. I've noticed I smell fuel near the passenger rear wheel well sometimes after a drive. There's no fuel smell in the cabin or the trunk. I took off the covers last night and looked over the evap shoebox and the lines for signs of obvious leaks. I couldn't see any leaks, but those hoses are old and brittle looking. @bigx5murf, I'll PM you about the parts needed to fix this. I really have no clue what to buy. Thanks!
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Re: Inspection Time

postby bigx5murf » 11/02/13 @ 17:37

Responded, read through the TSB thoroughly first.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby bigx5murf » 01/11/14 @ 20:58

Wondering if you've had any updates with this situation? I think I might've found my evap leak, and could be worth checking for you too. I removed this thing from the car.
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As you can see, there's oil on it, and nothing nearby to drip oil onto it. Upon closer inspection is easy to see the oil is leaking out of it.
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Anyway, I took it apart, cleaned off the gasket, covered the gasket in a bead of RTV silicone sealant. Then closed it back up. Got my fingers crossed that was it.
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Interestingly, I've noticed when I top off the gas needle meow goes about 1-2 mm further past F than before.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby DaleNixon » 01/12/14 @ 11:33

When I had the car in for a stage 1 FM clutch/flywheel installed I asked the shop to go ahead and smoke test it. One of the evap lines was split open. That was the culprit on my end.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby bigx5murf » 01/12/14 @ 15:16

you know from where they hooked up the smoke to?
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Re: Inspection Time

postby DaleNixon » 01/12/14 @ 19:01

I have no idea man. Sorry.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby Highschool » 01/14/14 @ 16:12

Current state inspection license here in PA. If it's above 2/32's for tires / brakes most cars are gonna pass just fine. Bigger dealerships like the one I'm at tend to find more items that fail to cover our asses. Oil leaks on exhaust systems and steering racks leaking are a normal occurance here at Hyundai.

I will never purchase a newer model Ford in general. Same goes for a Nissan or Subaru with CVT.

The miaturd passed on the rollers for smog just fine. Turbo time will be another story. May need to keep the car under 5k per year and daily one of my 240's from time to time. Exempt emissions is awesome!

Sidenote: Don't think I could ever live in california. The restrictions enforced by stations, po-po, and the fines involved seem rediculous.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby bigx5murf » 01/14/14 @ 23:09

I got tired of chasing my evap leak/low voltage codes. Just passed today, using the keep it topped off technique. I actually watched each code hit ready this time, was retarded, after 11 miles, everything was ready except catalyst and evap system. After 50 miles of local, I filled up again, did about 20 miles of non-stop highway and the catalyst test finishes, and I fill up again. After that passed with the evap test unready.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby Derek » 01/15/14 @ 09:52

Thankfully, as highschool said, OBDI cars here in PA just get roller smogged. As long as you're under their numbers, you pass.

My S10 doesn't have a cat on it anymore, it's just my hauler/beater and goes less than 5,000 miles a year (this past year, less than 1,000 miles) so no emissions!
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Re: Inspection Time

postby Dough_boy » 01/15/14 @ 11:35

I'm glad a lot of virginia hasn't caught on to the emissions inspections yet.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby Commanche » 01/15/14 @ 13:07

In georgia they put a thing in your exhaust and test the gas cap for OBD1.

For ob2 they plug in and test your gas cap
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Re: Inspection Time

postby Highschool » 01/16/14 @ 20:04

Dough_boy wrote:I'm glad a lot of virginia hasn't caught on to the emissions inspections yet.


Depends on the population concentration. Larger cities generally mandate emissions testing.

In Pennsylvania, avoid Philly / Pittsburgh and the close surrounding areas if you want to avoid smog testing.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby Highschool » 01/16/14 @ 20:07

Commanche wrote:In georgia they put a thing in your exhaust and test the gas cap for OBD1.

For ob2 they plug in and test your gas cap


Same in Pennsylvania. People try to reset readiness monitors all the time....

"Sir, I noticed your 2001 elantra GT only has one monitor set at this time for emissions. Did you take off your battery cable, or jumpstart your car recently?"

In the back of my mind I'm saying... "You fucking snake ahole"

"Sorry sir, we may need to drive your car up to 100 miles to reset the monitors."

.... and they take their keys never to be seen again.
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Re: Inspection Time

postby bigx5murf » 01/16/14 @ 21:11

Those readiness monitors are some BS. Day after I passed smog, that evap code came on again, so I reset the monitors. Drove 16 miles this time, and all monitors ready except evap. WTF?
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Re: Inspection Time

postby Derek » 01/17/14 @ 09:27

Highschool wrote:Depends on the population concentration. Larger cities generally mandate emissions testing.

In Pennsylvania, avoid Philly / Pittsburgh and the close surrounding areas if you want to avoid smog testing.


In Lancaster and York county they do 'visual only' emissions. You can run a gutted cat and it will pass, assuming you went to a shop that actually cares...

In Adams and Cumberland county they have no emissions testing at all, and I'm fairly certain that is how most of the state operates.
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