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Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby spitefulcheerio » 11/11/13 @ 15:13

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@Teejay187, so let's say I wanted to build a gaming rig capable of running games like BF4 on the maximum stats and hope to run 60+ fps without lag. What are some suggestions you would have?

Graphics card? Amount and brand of RAM? Processor type and brand? Motherboard? Fans? Moniter?

Since you're our resident computer expert, I'll hand the mic over to you and let you do your thing.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby Waffles » 11/11/13 @ 15:29

How deep are your pockets?
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby Waffles » 11/11/13 @ 15:34

I just built this one for a friend, came out to be just shy of $1500 with some good deals I found. It want for BF4 but should work just fine.

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 LE ATX LGA2011 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Storage2: WD Blue 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive WD10EZEX
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)
Case: Personal choice
Case Fan: Fill her up!
Power Supply: Silencer Mk III Series 1200 Watt Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Any, I usually put some kind of refurb here
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby Teejay187 » 11/11/13 @ 16:07

Just putting together a case that I know will be practical and good value.

Case: Corsair C70
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth Z87
CPU: Intel Core i5 4670K
RAM: Kingston HyperX 4x4GB 1600Mhz
PSU: Corsair RM750
GPU: ASUS GTX770
SSD: Samsung 840 120GB
Monitor: BenQ XL2420TE with 3D

Cost: 1700$ on newegg. Im sure the price can be cut by 3-400$ with the right deal.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby spitefulcheerio » 11/11/13 @ 16:22

That looks like a pretty good setup. It seems most people are going with the 4x4GB (16gb, right?) RAM on any kind of serious setup.

Is taht just a single graphics card? Oh would you un two of the gtx770s?
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

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postby Teejay187 » 11/11/13 @ 16:25

You would want 4 sticks on a Z87 motherboard as it has Quad channel. With 4 sticks you utilize the potential of the platform.

I always buy one graphics card new and the second used when I need more power. Same goes with this setup.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby spitefulcheerio » 11/11/13 @ 16:36

Waffles wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_CrossFireX


Whoa.

I've been out of the game way too long. Haven't even had a desktop in 7 years.

Thanks for the info guys!
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby Waffles » 11/11/13 @ 16:38

Yeah, they got some fancy crap. I still run on-board graphics because I am not a person that cares about how pretty my screen is as long as its smooth.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby andy » 12/06/13 @ 19:16

Hey guys my neighbor just gave me their old computer, and I was thinking about turning it into a gaming rig on the cheap. It was free after all and I do not have the buying power to buy a next gen console.

I know quite a lot of info in regards to building computers, but all of my knowledge is around 3-4 years old meow. I have built 4 computers from parts at tigerdirect before.

With that all being said it has a Core 2 Quad 2.33 GHZ Processor
4x1 GB Ram DDR2 PC-6400 (Can run up to 8 GB (4x2GB DDR2 PC-8500)
1GB nvidia geforce gt 640
Fresh install of Windows 7 64-Bit

I just wanted to know if this was a good start or am I better off just giving it to my dad to run as an office computer.

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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby bigx5murf » 12/06/13 @ 19:53

xbeatles4x wrote:Hey guys my neighbor just gave me their old computer, and I was thinking about turning it into a gaming rig on the cheap. It was free after all and I do not have the buying power to buy a next gen console.

I know quite a lot of info in regards to building computers, but all of my knowledge is around 3-4 years old meow. I have built 4 computers from parts at tigerdirect before.

With that all being said it has a Core 2 Quad 2.33 GHZ Processor
4x1 GB Ram DDR2 PC-6400 (Can run up to 8 GB (4x2GB DDR2 PC-8500)
1GB nvidia geforce gt 640
Fresh install of Windows 7 64-Bit

I just wanted to know if this was a good start or am I better off just giving it to my dad to run as an office computer.

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Need more info, most importantly, verify the mobo has the latest bios, then verify what the fastest CPU said bios can handle. Budget at least $200 for a new GPU, preferably $250+ (old gpu should get you ~$50 on ebay?). At that point you need to check if the PSU is up to the task of handling upgraded CPU/GPU from your budget, it not, budget at least another $60 (you need to find deals at this price).

Some people may hate on the ddr2, but I'm still running 6gb of ddr2 and feel no need to upgrade.

Personally, if the mobo can't handle dual GPU, I'd give up on a gaming build for it.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby andy » 12/06/13 @ 20:02

Alright let me see if I can get better specs. I do know the power supply is 400 watt.

I was not talking about making the best gaming computer, just one that would be adequate for some fun. I was initially thinking about taking a page out of Teejay's book and buying the same graphics card I already have from ebay and hooking them up in an sli configuration.

Motherboard name: ASUS: IPIBL-LB
Intel G33 Express

Edit: Looks like that is a proprietary HP motherboard so here is the direct link to it.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/docu ... ct=3686671

Double edit: Processor is a q8200
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postby andy » 12/06/13 @ 20:25

Remember I did want to do this on a budget and keep costs down as much as possible.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby andy » 12/06/13 @ 22:44

Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:
Intel Core 2 Quad (Y) Q9xxxx
Intel Core 2 Duo (W) E8xxx
Intel Core 2 Quad (K) up to Q6600
Core 2 Duo E6x00 (C) up to E6700
Core 2 Duo E4x00 (C) up to E4400

How do I find what the bios regulates in terms of speed?
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby andy » 12/06/13 @ 23:39

It appears as though the computer has

One PCI
One PCI Express x16
Two PCI Express x1

so it probably is a terrible platform to start a gaming computer on.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby andy » 12/07/13 @ 00:45

Well after doing some more research I think I will just give the computer to my dad for his office. It will definitely be an upgrade for at least one computer.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby bigx5murf » 12/07/13 @ 03:28

Probably a wise choice. I'm not saying a gaming PC needs to be balls out powerful. IMO the most important thing is that parts are well matched, and upgrade path is clear. This is why custom built systems are superior to big box names for gaming. In order for this to be possible, at the very least enthusiast grade mobo and psu are necessary.

That 400w psu I can guarantee it's sorely lacking to power the latest gen of gpus. IMO, I wouldn't bother running that GPU in SLI. By itself it's slower than the previous gen's budget line. GPU wise, for a build I'd like to go with the bang for buck enthusiast model, then dual gfx card it later down the line.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby Teejay187 » 12/07/13 @ 11:04

Smart choice. The lowest performing base you should go for are the first Core I7's. They don't cost a lot and will not bottleneck the system nearly as much as earlier quad cores. Also are they more likely to support full speed SLI or Crossfire. Buying used parts for a budget build is smart, but waiting around for the right parts is even better.

A 400w Psu of good quality can run a great deal of Hw. I ran SLI 580GTX on 480W
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postby bigx5murf » 12/07/13 @ 14:27

You really thing HP packed a quality 400w psu?
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postby andy » 12/07/13 @ 15:03

It is an aftermarket psi. It was 350 watt originally.

So are the days of a core 2 quad completely over meow? I remember when the i7 first came out people were still of the belief the core 2 quad was the way to go.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby bigx5murf » 12/07/13 @ 16:03

AMD's offerings have surpassed the c2q......
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby Teejay187 » 12/08/13 @ 16:59

Core 2`s are getting too old. The quality of the CPUs are degrading every year in use, and I dont see them as a reliable "upgrade" any more. I am an Intel guy, so I havent really looked at the AMD alternatives. I am quite sure that AMD is more bang for the buck for your price range.
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postby andy » 12/08/13 @ 22:18

I think I am going to take it slow. I still have my 360 with many games so i will continue to hold off longer.
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postby bigx5murf » 12/09/13 @ 01:02

I'm and AMD guy, and I can't confidently say AMD is better bang for buck with the i5's in contention.

What I can say is, PC gaming for me is an on and off thing, I take years off it at a time, and AMD has always left me a very cheap and easy upgrade path to play to latest games. Intel, will not create a platform with backward compatibility that allows you to upgrade 5-6 generations ahead in CPU someday. That I believe is the true strength of AMD offerings. Considering AMD's current AM3+ platform was released just under 2 years ago, I'm going to guess 4-5 years from meow it'd still be able to take a modern CPU upgrade without changing mobo/ram.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby UrbanFuturistic » 12/10/13 @ 10:05

For everyone before I begin: I recommend checking out two websites. [H]ard|OCP, and [H]ard|Forums. Between the information you can glean from the reviews and tests and benchmarks, to the good used hardware you can buy off the forums, there is a lot to be learned over there.

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@Teejay187, so let's say I wanted to build a gaming rig capable of running games like BF4 on the maximum stats and hope to run 60+ fps without lag. What are some suggestions you would have?

Graphics card? Amount and brand of RAM? Processor type and brand? Motherboard? Fans? Moniter?

Since you're our resident computer expert, I'll hand the mic over to you and let you do your thing.


I would suggest going with a Haswell intel CPU. Sure, they are the newest thing on the block, but you can get an i5-4xxx and motherboard for as much as an Ivy-bridge CPU alone. Socket 1150 is the way to go. Get a mobo with as many SATA connectors and four ram slots. That way if you only get so much ram to begin with you can still have room to upgrade.

Amount of ram. This is a tough one. Id say about 16GB ram. Some will say 32GB. How deep are your pockets? As far as brand, Corsair, Kingston, Adata, Crucial, Patriot. They all have budget and gaming offerings as far as ram goes.

Video Card. ATi's cards arent moving quite as fast as nVidia. This Chart will show you how the various video cards stack up against each other. This does not show benchmarks, but is the result of them.

Get a good 550-650-ish PSU and everything will be OK. Also, youll probably want to get an SSD for maximum performance.

xbeatles4x wrote:computer stuff


For you, I think you can build a pretty decent system for rather cheap. You dont seem like you want top dollar performance, but just something that is adequate, and can be upgraded as you go.

Best Graphics Cards for the Money
Best Gaming CPUs for the money

Also, Ill give you the same advice as for spitefulcheerio: get a mobo with as many sata connectors as possible and at least 4 ram slots. For you, Id say about 8-16GB ram. Hard Drives get cheaper by the day so splurge the extra few dollars and get a 2 or 3 terabyte HDD instead of the 1TB drive. A 120-ish GB SSD for your OS would be a worthwhile investment too.

See also:Tiger Direct has barebones kits. These are definately worth checking out.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby Teejay187 » 12/13/13 @ 09:28

So I am in the market for an upgrade.

What I am upgrading: Motherboard and CPU
What I have as of meow: Asus Sabertooth P67 and Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4,9Ghz.

What I am looking at:

Option 1: Asus Maximus VI Formula and Intel Core i7 4770k
Option 2: Asus Rampage IV Formula and Intel Core i7 4820k

Money is no option, since I am slamming water blocks on these anyways. Will be used with GTX 680 in SLI. I am looking for arguments here to get me to decide on this shit.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby UrbanFuturistic » 12/13/13 @ 10:34

So whats up with that 2600k when you upgrade?
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postby Teejay187 » 12/13/13 @ 11:11

Im gonna sell it together with my motherboard :phillyb™:
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby andy » 04/04/14 @ 09:26

I am helping my dad put together a new computer and I wanted to ask you guys that are more in the know than I am about graphics cards. What is a half way decent graphics card these days that can be had around the $65 mark? Preferably nvidia.
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postby UrbanFuturistic » 04/05/14 @ 10:06

Unfortunately, Andy, that puts you square in the land of ho-hum and blah as far as video cards go.

The best you can hope for is a GT610/620/630. Those pretty much dominate that price point. But they are garbage cards.

I did find this gem however. But youll probably balk at a refurbed piece.

I know youre going to give me the spiel about how your dad doesnt game and this-that-and-the-other. But for not much more, you can score a much better deal that you wont have to upgrade in the near future the way you will with one of those cards. Look for GTX650 cards. They will be closer to $100, but with the introduction of the 750/750ti cards they are falling in price.

On the ATi side of things, there are the R7 240/R7 250 cards which are planted square in that price point as well, and quite frankly unless you jump on that GTX460 card, they will probably be the better card to buy.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby andy » 04/07/14 @ 14:55

Just an fyi my new motherboard does support a pci 3.0 x 16 slot.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby UrbanFuturistic » 04/18/14 @ 09:38

Which board did you get?
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

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FWIW

http://imgur.com/a/X8ILh/#0

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Runs really well.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby andy » 10/26/15 @ 21:51

Well I am sort of bumping this old thread. I say long and hard with myself to figure out what I truly want from a new computer. I was waiting for the last year to see what apple would release with the skylake iMac but I am rather disappointed with the graphics card options available. So my decision was to buy an awesome monitor (Dell U3415W) and I plan on building my own hackintosh meow.

@ Tjay what is the sweet spot these days? I was liking the idea of the gtx970 but the 980 seems to be better and the 980ti is even better than that. With your logic of buying one card meow and eventually another card down the line for sli, what do you think is the best value for dollar at the moment. I want to game on the windows side at pretty good fps. Bear in mind the monitor i just bought is 3440*1440 so it will need more power than an 1080p setup to run.

I am also torn between waiting it out and waiting for the fine people of tonymac86x.com to fully figure out how to get skylake stuff to work well or go with old Haswell/Broadwell stuff and have a setup meow.

If I wait for the skylake stuff I will be going with the gigabyte z170x u5 th. It seems to be the first motherboard with thunderbolt 3, which is actually a selling point for me, and gigabyte has historically had great support with hackintosh stuff. On the flip side going with a 4690k setup is also tempting.

But the first thing I need to settle on is a case that doesn't suck so bad. I was looking into laser hive and ordering their panels to make a powermac g5 case work with atx stuff but it looks like more of a pain in the ass than it is probably worth.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby Teejay187 » 11/06/15 @ 10:52

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I am looking into specs right meow. What is your price range?

Your two options are the 1151 and the 2011v3 platforms from Intel. The respective "usual" processor for these are the 6600K/6700K on the 1151, and 5820K on the 2011v3. imo the first choice is the most bang for the buck. I think the Z97 is a little outdated tbh.

For compatibility I think both seems like good choices. check out tonymacx86 for examples. Great community with good and thorough write-ups.

I guess everything cooks down to the thickness of your wallet as well as the board manufacturers. After a quick read it seems like the ASUS cards are among the 100% supported ones.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby andy » 11/24/15 @ 11:27

Sorry for a late reply @teejay. I have been scouring and absorbing as much information as I could over on tonymacx86.com. I think my plan is to wait until skylake has a good guide and is working well with osx el capitan and then I will jump into building a computer. I am currently favoring the gigabyte z170x ud5 th and the gigabyte z170x gaming 7. Both have thunderbolt support and both are skylake compatible with ddr4.

Then I need to find a half way decent power supply.

Case so far I think is going to be the phanteks evolv in their space silver color that was just released.

Not sure on what ram, probably whatever is cheap that the motherboard I go with will work natively with.

Graphics card is an interesting topic though. I would want a gtx 980 ti sc oc but I cant really justify spending $600 for that when pascal is literally right around the corner and when my build actually happens will be even much sooner. So I am thinking of a gtx 970 to hold me over for pascal assuming pascal works on a z170x board and doesn't needs its own motherboard. Then I was thinking of ditching the 970 on Craigslist or ebay and taking a $50 hit. I don't think the gtx 970 would last me long with my 1440p ultra wide monitor.

The other idea was to buy a gtx980 ti sc oc from evga and when pascal is released going with a sli configuration but I don't think the price of the cards will drop that much and pascal is suppose to be all that and a bag of chips.

But long story short I think meow is the time for me to start keeping an eye out for stuff like power supply and case.

@teejay, any real reason to go with a 80+platinum over a 80+ gold? I was favoring something around a 850w and wouldn't be opposed to a 1000w. I was hoping for power supply to hover around the $100 mark.

If skylake worked great meow with osx el capitan I think I would just buy this and be done with motherboard and processor talk.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDeal ... bo.2483350

Then find a good processor fan/heat sink. I was favoring bequiet's but price was kind of not so great on that.
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Re: Gaming Rig Parts Suggestions

postby Teejay187 » 12/01/15 @ 18:30

Sorry I haven't been able to reply yet. Been busy with all and nothing. I will get back to you on this!
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