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Re: Firearms thread

postby andy » 05/02/14 @ 23:21

Derek wrote:While I completely agree with you, dropping $1,000 on your first gun is silly. Andy isn't a hobbyist of anything other than asking questions on forums and questionable fashion.

He needs the Camry to figure out whether he likes driving.


Even if guns ends up being something I do not care for that much, to me it is a show piece that is beautiful in its own right.

I liken it to classic cars. Maybe you don't like driving the classic car or would want to daily it but it sure does look damn good in your garage. Especially if it is the car that is your dream car.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby RevolverRob » 05/03/14 @ 00:16

bigx5murf wrote:I've even had to settle for steel case 9mm *shudder*


Nothing wrong with steel cased stuff. It's dirty, but it shoots fine and isn't corrosive. I've heard a bunch of bullshit about it destroying extractors. The little tin steel that cases are made out of and the HARDENED steel that extractors are made of, mean extractors win. It's just simple mechanical physics.

If you find it cheap and it goes bang, shoot it. I bought 600 rounds of steel-cased 9mm lately. It was cheap (10/box) and so I bought it? Do I like it a lot? No, it's really damn dirty. But it let me keep shooting.

That said, I am considering enrolling in http://www.primeclub.com/ - The base membership fee is $50/year and I can be guaranteed to get 2000 rounds of 9mm delivered to me every year. My understanding is the prices you see in the store are 20-25% lower for members. So, while a box of 115-grain JHP made by Geco (German and Swiss made ammo), is 18 bucks a box, over say shopping hard and finding it for 15 bucks a box, it gets delivered without me being worried about it. I am a lazy ass consumer too...I'd rather have ammo delivered any day of the week.

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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 05/06/14 @ 04:13

Yea, I put 150 steel cased cci 9mm this past week through my sig without problems. Stuff's got decent accuracy too, but definitely on the dirty side compared to the armscor I was shooting before.

I made some diy cross drilled rotors, since I had some warped rotors, and a box of 5.56 green tips.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby RevolverRob » 05/06/14 @ 12:19

Double-tap-a-lap-a-ding-dong.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby RevolverRob » 05/06/14 @ 12:19

CCI stuff is actually aluminum cased, not steel, even less likely to give you trouble. I have fired tens of thousands of rounds of that stuff.

Last night I installed the Apex Tactical - Forward Set Sear trigger and sear setup in my M&P CORE. Holy shit balls the M&P Pro trigger was crap, but I chose to shoot it, to see how I could do and I did okay. meow with the Apex trigger in, I think I'll be doing much better. Trouble is, I won't make it to a competition meow for about 6 months since I have to move across the country and get settled. :suicide: But I'm still going to take this thing to range later this week, reports to phollow.

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Re: Firearms thread

postby RevolverRob » 05/07/14 @ 00:40

Thread needs MOAR PICS...Right MEOW!

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Re: Firearms thread

postby theAngryMarmot » 05/07/14 @ 10:50

RevolverRob wrote:CCI stuff is actually aluminum cased, not steel, even less likely to give you trouble. I have fired tens of thousands of rounds of that stuff.

Last night I installed the Apex Tactical - Forward Set Sear trigger and sear setup in my M&P CORE. Holy shit balls the M&P Pro trigger was crap, but I chose to shoot it, to see how I could do and I did okay. meow with the Apex trigger in, I think I'll be doing much better. Trouble is, I won't make it to a competition meow for about 6 months since I have to move across the country and get settled. :suicide: But I'm still going to take this thing to range later this week, reports to phollow.

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I believe some of the CCI Aluminum cased ammo is loaded less powerful than the brass cased alternatives. I noticed this particularly true in .44 Magnum. I bought a box and there was a noticeable difference in performance (IE - less.)
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 05/08/14 @ 13:42

Someone local is offering me a decent deal on a Walther p22. I figure couldn't hurt to have a cheaper plinker, and I've actually managed to hoard a nice stash of 22lr. Anyone have any experience with this pistol? Please share
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 05/11/14 @ 04:04

http://grabagun.com/catalog/product/view/id/78317
http://www.americantactical.us/page/gsgfxrebate.html

What do you think guys? $299 for a 1911 after rebate. Worth the gamble?
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Re: Firearms thread

postby RevolverRob » 05/11/14 @ 11:16

bigx5murf wrote:http://grabagun.com/catalog/product/view/id/78317
http://www.americantactical.us/page/gsgfxrebate.html

What do you think guys? $299 for a 1911 after rebate. Worth the gamble?


No.

If you want a cheap 1911, buy an Armscor/Rock Island Armory MUCH better gun.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 05/14/14 @ 04:21

For if you absolutely must stop jerking off.

http://www.guns.com/2014/04/23/meet-new ... derringer/
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Re: Firearms thread

postby Sploinkin » 05/14/14 @ 13:29

What is that. I don't even.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby sj_ripples » 05/17/14 @ 22:00

Weaver stance or no? Thoughts? Personally I think it feels weird.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby RevolverRob » 05/18/14 @ 00:53

sj_ripples wrote:Weaver stance or no? Thoughts? Personally I think it feels weird.


Whatever feels comfortable.

Personally, I run a freestyle stance that is kind of a modified isosceles, but for years I shot Weaver, which is actually closer to square than most people realize. Feet about shoulder width apart, bring the gun from the holster to the midline, both hands meet, and press out, driving the gun forward and up. Try not to drop your head into the "tactical turtle" that a lot of folks do. You have a neck and your hands can reach your face. You don't need to scrunch up. Drive the gun out, pick up the front sight/dot/whatever and get to shooting.

However, I feel pretty comfortable shooting from all positions including just an average standing position. All I care about is a press-out that allows sight alignment and controlling the trigger, it's the only thing that matters in shooting quickly, is a consistent ability to control your gun.

I think stance is over thought and over taught, especially with a handgun. A handgun weighs 40 ounces maximum and produced maybe 300-400 ft lbs of energy (most produce much less). If you cannot drive it out and hang on to it from any stance, you're jolly well fucked, anyways. Same story with most rifles today, an AR or AK doesn't produce considerable felt recoil. Drive it out squared off to the body, align the sights, and get shooting. A shotgun is a little different but can be run with the same square stance as a rifle/pistol with work.

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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 05/21/14 @ 18:10

Exploding target fun!

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Re: Firearms thread

postby Sploinkin » 05/21/14 @ 23:21

Exploding targets are the best!
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 05/22/14 @ 16:55

Sploinkin wrote:Exploding targets are the best!


Unfortunately the bans are starting. Stuff already banned up in Reno.

http://archive.coloradoan.com/article/2 ... her-states

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/2 ... idaho.html
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 05/24/14 @ 21:00

http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-uc-san ... d=23853918

This fucktard just forced me to donate to more to NRA in anticipation of the fallback.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 06/15/14 @ 05:15

I took a chance on an El cheapo turkish made 1911, supposedly its the exact one they issue out to their military. I put 100 rnds of winchester white box, mixed with 50 rnds of speer gold dot today. The thing stove pipes at least once per mag when using Mec-Gar mags, but runs flawlessly with ACT mags. All in all though, I'm happy with the purchase.

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Re: Firearms thread

postby sj_ripples » 06/26/14 @ 00:19

No offense, it's your gun and you may do as you please, but I hate those grips. Otherwise it's a nice looking piece.

Edit: I like the shape and that hexagonal texture, just hate skulls on shit
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Re: Firearms thread

postby Waffles » 06/29/14 @ 21:23

$80 shotgun FTW. I love pawn shops!

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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 07/23/14 @ 20:16

I'm guessing most people are still having trouble finding 22LR? Well, I jumped on some stuff simply because I saw it. I mean, it's federal, so it's gotta be decent right? $35 at walmart
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S&W gave me a new bolt, I'm wary about using up the rest of the federals.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby Sploinkin » 07/23/14 @ 23:25

Federal is about all I can find in bulk around here. Been through thousands of rounds and haven't seen that before.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 07/24/14 @ 04:03

Like I said, I'm a fan of federal, love XM193. But mostly I've only been feeding my 15-22 various CCI ammo. My 15-22 is an earlier revision, and has been modified quite a bit for bump firing (slide fire, cmc 3.5lbs drop in trigger), so it's probably pickier on ammo than most (it hates aguila). Another local 15-22 owner told me he had the same thing happen with Remington golden bullets, while another said this particular ammo had always given his 15-22 a failure rate of 15-22.

I think I'll fire the rest of the federal in semi-auto, and only bump fire with the CCI.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby sj_ripples » 08/31/14 @ 22:05

So i left my Ruger in VA with my brother, guess I'm gonna have to start shopping in FL
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Re: Firearms thread

postby theAngryMarmot » 12/17/14 @ 23:07

Jeebus. Ghost town up in here.


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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 12/18/14 @ 05:43

Picked up a .308 ar10 lower on black friday. Damn transfer fee was as much as the receiver.

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Re: Firearms thread

postby theAngryMarmot » 12/21/14 @ 00:30

One of the fellow teachers at the school my wife teaches at has a son who loves guns, but unfortunately they do not own any (having three kids is hard on the finances!)

For his B-Day we took him shooting and brought out a few things for him to try.

Little kiddo can shoot, and has great taste - his favorite firearms was the 1911.

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He was quite excited to have a sore shoulder and wrist/palms tomorrow haha.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby theAngryMarmot » 12/21/14 @ 23:56

I finished throwing together my second AZ Armory AR-15 tonight (except for sights.)

AZ Armory lower, YHM Upper receiver, BTE floating handguard. 16" Arizona Armory marked CMMG lightweight profile 1:9 Chrome Moly barrel. SEI Vortex Flash Hider, BTE charging handle.

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Re: Firearms thread

postby sj_ripples » 12/22/14 @ 03:14

theAngryMarmot wrote:Little kiddo can shoot, and has great taste - his favorite firearms was the 1911.


I put about 50 rounds through my buddy's sig 1911 a few months back and i honestly didn't really like it. I think it's my big but skinny hands. The grips just didn't feel very substantial. I will say it was a very nice shooting and great looking piece, but just not a good fit for me.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby theAngryMarmot » 12/22/14 @ 03:25

I have fairly large but thin hands as well, long fingers. I find the grip to be quite comfy - but then again it probably also comes to what technique you use to actually "grip" the pistol.

They do make fatter and thinner grips - as well as double stack 1911s.

The grips on my Ruger SR1911 are thinner than the ones on my DE1911 - but they are aftermarket on that pistol and have an extremely rough texture.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby theAngryMarmot » 12/22/14 @ 03:29

Some more "free state" gun porn from my collection :


Pre-Ban Bush Model M1A .308

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1911s :

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Sig p238, Jericho 941, and DE 44Mag

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My favorite AK ever - Arsenal SLR95

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Small Varmit Murderin' Stick (Ruger 10/22 w/ green mountain barrel, boyd's stock, etc)

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Re: Firearms thread

postby sj_ripples » 12/23/14 @ 00:50

I shoot a "standard" thumbs forward grip. Some nice guns you've got there sir.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby Derek » 12/23/14 @ 11:02

Nice looking collection.

I'll get back into guns at some point, I sold some to buy the Sportster from mu uncle. Still have the collector, carry, and hunting firearms though.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 12/25/14 @ 05:58

Awesome collection, really dig the cz75/jericho/baby eagle, that's probably what I'll be looking for next after I finish my AR10 build.

I actually live like a mile away from Arsenal AK. But personally I'm just not an AK fan. Then again, I've only shot wasr10s.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby theAngryMarmot » 12/25/14 @ 14:22

The Jericho is the first handgun I would grab if a SHTF situation arises. I have at least 6k rounds through that pistol and it has never failed to fire, extract, and chamber the next round. Most reliable handgun I have ever seen. That and it is very accurate (polygonal rifling) and points perfectly.

There is a big difference in AKs. The SLR95 shoots softer, more accurate, and smoother than my cheaper AKs by a large margin.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 12/27/14 @ 05:55

I know I probably should give AKs another chance, but really what turns me off most about them are the fans. Like there's this one local guy, who invites himself to our shooting trips at times. He goes on and on about how modifying ARs is using mods as crutches, and how learning irons are infinitely superior to red dots and such. Yet you ask him to put his money where his mouth is, and take a one shot challenge out to 250yds... nothing but excuses, even if you offer to turn off the dot, and use co-witness flip up irons. Thing with AK fans are the purists, who preach on and on about the merits of a simple AK over anything else. Yet won't take you up on any shooting competition past 150 yds.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby theAngryMarmot » 12/27/14 @ 13:46

Eh, the AK guys and the AR guys are all the same way with their stuff. It is the same thing as the Ford vs Chevy, Domestic vs Import, etc.

I run into them occasionally at the range, and I will be shooting an AK and some AR guy will ask about how accurate it is - hoping to get into a debate to self-prove the validity of his purchase.

It is always someone who owns either a cheap, low end AR or AK - or they only have one of the two. I never get any baiting questions from people who own both, or have a few nice ARs or AKs. They usually are doing their best to be Jack Reacher shooting paper @ 25 yards or closer.

It is usually someone who had to save for half a year to buy a 600 dollar AR, or someone who things they are insurgent operator 1000 with a WASR AK. They usually aren't "gun smart" enough to realize they shouldn't get into a pissing match with the hillbilly with a table full of stuff they have never seen before, or the table all the RSOs (range safety officers) are gathered around.

I just settle the debate the easy way, I say "Lets see who can put the most rounds out of 5 in the 10 ring @ 100."

They assume I will be using my AK vs. their iron/dot optic'd AR. Usually draws a crowd. The RSOs know what I am going to do, they have seen me do it before.

I pull out my 1915 Enfield. I say "I will stand, feel free to use the bench."

They leave the range early - confused and regretting trying that kiddie b.s. on me.

The best part are the people who chuckle at me when I have my spotting scope, target frame at 100+ yards, and I am shooting some of my old war rifles. They seem to be ignorant to the fact that a nice old Enfield or similar can group 3 MOA or better @ 100 with someone who knows how to shoot halfway decent. That is better than just about any AK, and better than the average mall ninja can shoot with their AR.

My latest AR can group ~1" @ 100 - which is impressive considering the carbine length barrel. But that upper was assembled with fine parts and a ton of care from a local well-reputed builder who is known for such shenanigans. I am going to have the dude do his magic on my Saiga 12 as well.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby bigx5murf » 12/28/14 @ 03:27

Most of the guys I shoot with aren't big time gun guys, most own 3 firearms or less. We do like modifying our guns, since they're also car guys, and race guys. So most of them own ARs for the parts availability. Although there is one guy who's only into SKS, he's got a pretty cool bullpup conversion done from a chinese norinco.
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Re: Firearms thread

postby theAngryMarmot » 12/28/14 @ 04:57

Yeah, usually those kind of guys are a bit single minded when it comes to platform.

To be honest, if I had to grab a firearm out of my safe to mow down some N. Koreans invading the US through my backyard, I wouldn't care if it was one of my AKs or ARs - I am competent enough with either to get the job done.

To be honest it would probably be my M1A.....or my Saiga 12 with my drums all loaded with 00 Buck...lol

Most guys don't realize that arguing between the two is like arguing how to pronounce the word "Porsche."

I like owning a variety - as I love the difference in mechanics, operation, and the strengths and weaknesses of each one. ARs and AKs are a beautiful example of how differing types of warfare led to different design and function requirements.

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