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Health and Fitness

postby andy » 11/05/13 @ 16:59

Ok Lets make this thread about overall health and fitness. Post up if you have a particular question or have something to add.

Ill go first. I could stand to loose even more weight. As of meow I am 195. I have cut out all sodas and drink either water or lightly sweetened/non sweetened tea (Earl Grey, Green, White...)

In regards to fitness my university has a gym which I am not that crazy about, but they also have a Jogging path/vita course.

Any suggestions?

I am not opposed to the gym but I find I do not quite know what to start to do in terms of loosing weight vs building up endurance. I tried doing the elliptical for about a month and felt nothing even though my heart rate was constantly around 168 while doing it.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby andy » 11/05/13 @ 17:02

@Bryan What do you suggest for someone trying to get into the whole jogging (yogging).

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby phillyb™ » 11/05/13 @ 17:55

well...he has a runner's thread. not sure if you read it.
idk anything about running, but i need to start eating better.

i sweat so much, it's ridiculous. and if you've seen my shit, then you know i need to start taking better care of my body.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby bigx5murf » 11/05/13 @ 18:13

But it's winter time, getting fat saves on heating bills. Bring this back up in April yo :tits:
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/05/13 @ 18:14

I seem to have bottomed out on dropping weight myself.

I went from a 185+lbs to 160lbs and cannot get the weight lower. I do cardio on a exercise bike 5 times a week from 45-60 minutes on top of every other day lifting weights splitting it from arms/shoulders/abs and legs/abs.

I have dropped sodas and stick to sub 2000 calorie intake 6 days out of the week with one cheat day. My diet is pretty good with lots of whole foods, grains, etc with an effort to get more than the daily of protein to make sure I do not lose muscle mass from the cardio.

Any suggestions where to go next?

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby andy » 11/05/13 @ 18:20

bigx5murf wrote:But it's winter time, getting fat saves on heating bills. Bring this back up in April yo :tits:

I am in MIami. We do not have winter.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby bigx5murf » 11/05/13 @ 18:33

Well, I wrestled varsity in highschool for a few years, so I know a thing or two about making weight, and losing it quick. Not claiming to be an expert or anything.

My guess is, you guys who've plateau'd on weight loss, your bodies got used to the maintaining elevated heart rate, and has actually gotten more efficient at doing it. If you've ever heard of the term muscle confusion, it applies to your cardio system too. You'll need to modify your cardio so that you're going all out for a minute or two at a time, rest for a minute or two, then continue all out. Mix up your cardio, and don't just jog/run/bike. Swim, box (hit a bag), step aerobics (don't laugh, try this shit with a minimum 1' step, you'll feel like a used up bitch), circuit training, play some xbox kinect, you get the idea.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby Skinny » 11/05/13 @ 19:21

Four liquids: tea, whiskey, water, and orange juice. (thats the order of quantity too)

Base your meals around paste or rice. If it comes out of a box, can or is frozen, dont buy it. Frozen veg is okay.

Works for me. I also dont get sick. On the rare occasion that I do catch the sniffles, I can shake it over a weekend.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby Hateoneveryone » 11/05/13 @ 20:32

Cut all that shit out of ur diet even lightly sweetened shit is wasted calories, the gym is not for everyone i happen to be a gym rat i see people come and waste time, if ur not into bodybuilding but want to lose weight cut things that u can live with not dramatic changes that u reach ur goal then Start eating and drinking again and blow back up, if u can cut out everything and just drink water stop using salt and make sure u drink enough plus excersize u should see results. Download this app called "my fitness pal" u said ur goal weight and rate at which u want to reach it for example half a lb a week 1 lb a week 2lb a week n it gives u a caloric allowence it has almost every food plus gives u the ability to scan bar codes or quick add calories also u can add excersizes or calories burned to earn more calories in that days allowence, it also shows u graphs of carbs fat and protien tracks ur progress and when u finish ur daily diary it gives u an encoraging fact like for example "if every day is like today u will weight 180lb in 4 weeks" its a great little app and i can say personaly it works, durring cutting i was lossing at a higher rate then it was predicting, youd be surprized what u can eat and still lose weight. I highly reccomend this
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/05/13 @ 20:37

Hateoneveryone wrote:Cut all that shit out of ur diet even lightly sweetened shit is wasted calories, the gym is not for everyone i happen to be a gym rat i see people come and waste time, if ur not into bodybuilding but want to lose weight cut things that u can live with not dramatic changes that u reach ur goal then Start eating and drinking again and blow back up, if u can cut out everything and just drink water stop using salt and make sure u drink enough plus excersize u should see results. Download this app called "my fitness pal" u said ur goal weight and rate at which u want to reach it for example half a lb a week 1 lb a week 2lb a week n it gives u a caloric allowence it has almost every food plus gives u the ability to scan bar codes or quick add calories also u can add excersizes or calories burned to earn more calories in that days allowence, it also shows u graphs of carbs fat and protien tracks ur progress and when u finish ur daily diary it gives u an encoraging fact like for example "if every day is like today u will weight 180lb in 4 weeks" its a great little app and i can say personaly it works, durring cutting i was lossing at a higher rate then it was predicting, youd be surprized what u can eat and still lose weight. I highly reccomend this


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Re: Health and Fitness

postby Hateoneveryone » 11/05/13 @ 20:39

Oh boy not this forum too, y do people take forums so fucking serious? I dont have time for punctuation and correct spelling, theres some good info in what i wrote above... Im sure he can work it out
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/05/13 @ 20:41

bigx5murf wrote:Well, I wrestled varsity in highschool for a few years, so I know a thing or two about making weight, and losing it quick. Not claiming to be an expert or anything.

My guess is, you guys who've plateau'd on weight loss, your bodies got used to the maintaining elevated heart rate, and has actually gotten more efficient at doing it. If you've ever heard of the term muscle confusion, it applies to your cardio system too. You'll need to modify your cardio so that you're going all out for a minute or two at a time, rest for a minute or two, then continue all out. Mix up your cardio, and don't just jog/run/bike. Swim, box (hit a bag), step aerobics (don't laugh, try this shit with a minimum 1' step, you'll feel like a used up bitch), circuit training, play some xbox kinect, you get the idea.


I had read a bit on this and agree that my body has caught on to what I am doing. I will try some go like hell exercise in intervals to see what that can do for a few weeks. I have varied my diet to see if I can get it to drop the extra bit or weight but no luck there either. Maybe I should be a little more extreme on the intake mid week with low fat but high qty of calories to see what that gets me as well.

I will report back.

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby bigx5murf » 11/05/13 @ 21:57

CorkSport - Derrick wrote:
bigx5murf wrote:Well, I wrestled varsity in highschool for a few years, so I know a thing or two about making weight, and losing it quick. Not claiming to be an expert or anything.

My guess is, you guys who've plateau'd on weight loss, your bodies got used to the maintaining elevated heart rate, and has actually gotten more efficient at doing it. If you've ever heard of the term muscle confusion, it applies to your cardio system too. You'll need to modify your cardio so that you're going all out for a minute or two at a time, rest for a minute or two, then continue all out. Mix up your cardio, and don't just jog/run/bike. Swim, box (hit a bag), step aerobics (don't laugh, try this shit with a minimum 1' step, you'll feel like a used up bitch), circuit training, play some xbox kinect, you get the idea.


I had read a bit on this and agree that my body has caught on to what I am doing. I will try some go like hell exercise in intervals to see what that can do for a few weeks. I have varied my diet to see if I can get it to drop the extra bit or weight but no luck there either. Maybe I should be a little more extreme on the intake mid week with low fat but high qty of calories to see what that gets me as well.

I will report back.

-Derrick


The human body actually has an amazing ability to adapt. I believe this ability to adapt is what causes people to plateau when trying to reach fitness goals. At some point to get anymore results, it becomes necessary to either increase the time investment, or to create a situation in the same allotted time that the body just isn't used to. We can do this by varying the intensity, attempting to reach higher heart rates in shorter amounts of time. Adopting training rhythms the body isn't used to. Or even forcing the cardio system to supply muscle groups it isn't used to (ie, runners should try rowing exercises). Basically, just get creative.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby vfbj1584 » 11/06/13 @ 01:03

bigx5murf wrote:
CorkSport - Derrick wrote:
bigx5murf wrote:Well, I wrestled varsity in highschool for a few years, so I know a thing or two about making weight, and losing it quick. Not claiming to be an expert or anything.

My guess is, you guys who've plateau'd on weight loss, your bodies got used to the maintaining elevated heart rate, and has actually gotten more efficient at doing it. If you've ever heard of the term muscle confusion, it applies to your cardio system too. You'll need to modify your cardio so that you're going all out for a minute or two at a time, rest for a minute or two, then continue all out. Mix up your cardio, and don't just jog/run/bike. Swim, box (hit a bag), step aerobics (don't laugh, try this shit with a minimum 1' step, you'll feel like a used up bitch), circuit training, play some xbox kinect, you get the idea.


I had read a bit on this and agree that my body has caught on to what I am doing. I will try some go like hell exercise in intervals to see what that can do for a few weeks. I have varied my diet to see if I can get it to drop the extra bit or weight but no luck there either. Maybe I should be a little more extreme on the intake mid week with low fat but high qty of calories to see what that gets me as well.

I will report back.

-Derrick


The human body actually has an amazing ability to adapt. I believe this ability to adapt is what causes people to plateau when trying to reach fitness goals. At some point to get anymore results, it becomes necessary to either increase the time investment, or to create a situation in the same allotted time that the body just isn't used to. We can do this by varying the intensity, attempting to reach higher heart rates in shorter amounts of time. Adopting training rhythms the body isn't used to. Or even forcing the cardio system to supply muscle groups it isn't used to (ie, runners should try rowing exercises). Basically, just get creative.

It does it's crazy... The only way to beat it is change routines weekly... Like when I lift no two days are the same for weeks.. Some days I do the same exercises but never the same order or the exact same ones as the week before. Like chest day I always bench but there are 8 different ways to bench...
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby bigx5murf » 11/06/13 @ 02:43

All this preaching of repetitiveness = bad, I just want to add, repetitiveness = very good when it comes to eating, sleeping, and shitting.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/06/13 @ 12:48

bigx5murf wrote:All this preaching of repetitiveness = bad, I just want to add, repetitiveness = very good when it comes to eating, sleeping, and shitting.


I use the cardio to reduce stress and sleep better at night. It was a nice side effect I discovered after a month or so.

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby allycat » 11/07/13 @ 23:41

I try to phollow the principles of "nourishing traditions", a cookbook I highly recommend. I can't afford to eat how I would like but I believe in as little processed foods as possible. lots of cooked and raw veggies, no sugar. I like fermented drinks especially kefir. plenty of meats, would prefer cage free living for any animals I eat but I can't always afford it.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby bigx5murf » 11/07/13 @ 23:51

Another thing worth trying, if you've got a really good blender. Throw in a mix of fruits, veggies, grains, nuts, and pulverize it. Make enough for a week at a time. If it tastes like crap, you probably got it right. Anyway drink a glass right when you wake up, before you do anything else. Then another before you sleep at night. After the first week, you should've lost quite a few pounds, just from the old crap stuck inside you being flushed out (the first few shits you take should feel like you're being raped from the inside out, if not, you got the cocktail wrong). Once you stop though, you should replace the morning, and night dosage with kefir or yogurt. Because your not exposed intestinal walls could be rather vulnerable, kefir or yogurt should beef them up good bacteria.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby Waffles » 11/08/13 @ 09:59

So far I have not lost any weight, but I have lost a good amount of body fat, All I am doing is:

Protein shake for breakfast
Snack(usually a protein bar)
Gym(see below for routine)
Protein shake for lunch
Snack #2 (usually a protein bar)
Whatever the hell my wife wants me to make for dinner.

Monday:
Dumbbell Bicep Curl 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Bench Dip N/A Set 1 : 0.0x10
Air Bike 30 Set 1 : 30 Laps/Reps
Dumbbell Bicep Curl 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Bench Dip N/A Set 1 : 0.0x6
Air Bike 30 Set 1 : 30 Laps/Reps
Dumbbell Bicep Curl 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Bench Dip N/A Set 1 : 0.0x6
Air Bike 30 Set 1 : 30 Laps/Reps
Hammer Curls 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Dumbbell Standing Triceps Extension 48 Set 1 : 40.0x6
Plank N/A Set 1 : 00:00:31
Hammer Curls 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Dumbbell Standing Triceps Extension 48 Set 1 : 40.0x6
Plank N/A Set 1 : 00:00:30
Hammer Curls 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Dumbbell Standing Triceps Extension 48 Set 1 : 40.0x6
Plank N/A Set 1 : 00:00:32

Tuesday:
Pull Ups 6 Set 1 : 6 Laps/Reps
Set 2 : 6 Laps/Reps
Set 3 : 6 Laps/Reps

Dumbbell Deadlift 54 Set 1 : 40.0x6
Set 2 : 45.0x6
Set 3 : 40.0x6

Dumbbell Deadlift 60 Set 1 : 45.0x6
Set 2 : 45.0x6
Set 3 : 50.0x6

One-Arm Dumbell Row 56 Set 1 : 40.0x12
Set 2 : 40.0x12
Set 3 : 40.0x12

Standing Dumbbell Calf Raise 62.99 Set 1 : 45.0x12
Set 2 : 40.0x12

Standing Dumbbell Calf Raise 70 Set 1 : 45.0x12
Set 2 : 50.0x12
Set 3 : 50.0x12
Set 4 : 50.0x12
Set 5 : 50.0x12
Set 6 : 50.0x12

Pull Ups 6 Set 1 : 6 Laps/Reps
Set 2 : 6 Laps/Reps
Set 3 : 6 Laps/Reps

Dumbbell Deadlift 120 Set 1 : 100.0x6
Set 2 : 100.0x6
Set 3 : 50.0x6

Dumbbell Deadlift 120 Set 1 : 100.0x6
Set 2 : 100.0x6
Set 3 : 100.0x6

One-Arm Dumbell Row 48 Set 1 : 40.0x6
Set 2 : 40.0x6
Set 3 : 40.0x6

Standing Dumbbell Calf Raise 70 Set 1 : 50.0x12
Set 2 : 50.0x12
Set 3 : 50.0x12
Set 4 : 50.0x12
Set 5 : 50.0x12
Set 6 : 50.0x12

Wednesday:
Dumbbell Shoulder Press 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Set 2 : 70.0x6
Set 3 : 70.0x6

Dumbbell Lateral Raise 36 Set 1 : 30.0x6
Set 2 : 30.0x6
Set 3 : 30.0x6

Dumbbell Bent Over Delt Raise 48 Set 1 : 40.0x6
Set 2 : 40.0x6
Set 3 : 40.0x6

Dumbbell Shoulder Shrug 108 Set 1 : 90.0x6
Set 2 : 90.0x6
Set 3 : 90.0x6

Dumbbell Squat 96 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Set 2 : 80.0x6
Set 3 : 80.0x6

Dumbbell Stiff Leg Deadlift 96 Set 1 : 80.0x6
Set 2 : 80.0x6
Set 3 : 80.0x6

Dumbbell Rear Lunge 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Set 2 : 70.0x6
Set 3 : 70.0x6

Kettlebell One Legged Deadlift N/A Set 1 : 0.0x6
Set 2 : 0.0x6
Set 3 : 0.0x6

Thursday:
Dumbbell Squat 108 Set 1 : 80.0x6
Set 2 : 90.0x6
Set 3 : 90.0x6

Dumbbell Stiff Leg Deadlift 96 Set 1 : 80.0x6
Set 2 : 80.0x6
Set 3 : 80.0x6

Dumbbell Rear Lunge 96 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Set 2 : 80.0x6
Set 3 : 80.0x6

Kettlebell One Legged Deadlift 56 Set 1 : 40.0x12
Set 2 : 40.0x12
Set 3 : 40x12

Kettlebell One Legged Deadlift N/A Set 1 : 0x6

Dumbbell Shoulder Press 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Set 2 : 70.0x6
Set 3 : 70.0x6

Dumbbell Lateral Raise 36 Set 1 : 30.0x6
Set 2 : 30.0x6
Set 3 : 30.0x6

Dumbbell Bent Over Delt Raise 48 Set 1 : 40.0x6
Set 2 : 40.0x6
Set 3 : 40.0x6

Dumbbell Shoulder Shrug 108 Set 1 : 90.0x6
Set 2 : 90.0x6
Set 3 : 90.0x6

Friday:
Dumbbell Bicep Curl 84 Set 1 : 60.0x12

Bench Dip N/A Set 1 : 0.0x6

Air Bike 30 Set 1 : 30 Laps/Reps

Dumbbell Bicep Curl 72 Set 1 : 60.0x6

Bench Dip N/A Set 1 : 0.0x6

Air Bike 30 Set 1 : 30 Laps/Reps

Dumbbell Bicep Curl 72 Set 1 : 60.0x6

Bench Dip N/A Set 1 : 0.0x6

Air Bike 30 Set 1 : 30 Laps/Reps

Hammer Curls 72 Set 1 : 60.0x6

Dumbbell Standing Triceps Extension 48 Set 1 : 40.0x6

Plank N/A Set 1 : 00:00:31

Hammer Curls 72 Set 1 : 60.0x6

Dumbbell Standing Triceps Extension 48 Set 1 : 40.0x6

Plank N/A Set 1 : 00:00:31

Hammer Curls 72 Set 1 : 60.0x6

Dumbbell Standing Triceps Extension 48 Set 1 : 40.0x6

Plank N/A Set 1 : 00:00:31

Dumbbell Squat 84 Set 1 : 35.0x14
Set 2 : 35.0x6
Set 3 : 70.0x6

Dumbbell Stiff Leg Deadlift 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Set 2 : 70.0x6
Set 3 : 70.0x6

Dumbbell Rear Lunge 84 Set 1 : 70.0x6
Set 2 : 70.0x6
Set 3 : 70.0x6

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby Skinny » 11/08/13 @ 10:02

CorkSport - Derrick wrote:
bigx5murf wrote:All this preaching of repetitiveness = bad, I just want to add, repetitiveness = very good when it comes to eating, sleeping, and shitting.


I use the cardio to reduce stress and sleep better at night. It was a nice side effect I discovered after a month or so.

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby Waffles » 11/08/13 @ 10:09

I keep getting friends trying to get me to do crossfit with them. I see them sore or injured all the time from bad form. Why would I want to join them??? :tits:

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/14/13 @ 11:28

I worry about injuring myself when I start going to personal best lifting.

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby bigx5murf » 11/14/13 @ 15:43

I've got quite a few nagging injuries for a guy my age. I was advised to get surgery multiple times. But I've found acupuncture to be capable of providing relief for months at a time or more. For example, my right shoulder was dislocated a few times, doctors kept saying I needed to go under the knife for it. Acupuncture relieved the pain enough for me to allow me to slowly train the muscles. meow I can raise my miater top with my right arm despite the roll bar.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/15/13 @ 18:02

"Surgery is not the answer unless there is absolutely nothing else you can do" is the motto I live by.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby Hateoneveryone » 11/16/13 @ 15:49

You forgot to put

"-Derrick"
Like you do on all your posts even though we can all see who is posting..
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby iRoadster » 11/16/13 @ 16:02

I can't really add to this thread. :inandoutbarf:
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/19/13 @ 17:16

Hateoneveryone wrote:You forgot to put

"-Derrick"
Like you do on all your posts even though we can all see who is posting..


It is just a habit from posting under the "CorkSport" title on other phorums.

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/19/13 @ 17:32

In the healthy bits of information, I was reading up on using fasting to drop body fat. After spending some time educating myself, I decided to give this a shot in the every other day fasting method. Since Tuesday last week I have been skipping every other day for 22 days total I really thought this would suck bad but it is not really that hard to do. I have chicken broth for lunch on my fasting days (4 grams of protein in 1 can and only 30 calories) to make sure I am not eroding muscle.

Results so far, according to my fancy bathroom scale my body fat content has gone from 13.4% to 12.8% in that period. For the sake of data I weight myself the same time every night and after a work out to make sure I am getting an accurate results.

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby bigx5murf » 11/19/13 @ 17:57

I weigh myself before and after every poop. I average a loss of 3lbs per poop.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby DK Wolf » 11/19/13 @ 17:57

I have 27" thighs because I love squats and dead lifts.


My thighs are the size of some womens waists.... it's pretty radical.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/19/13 @ 18:02

bigx5murf wrote:I weigh myself before and after every poop. I average a loss of 3lbs per poop.


Lets see the excel data on that.....


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Re: Health and Fitness

postby bigx5murf » 11/19/13 @ 18:09

Guess I'll start keeping track of it tomorrow.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 11/19/13 @ 18:47

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Re: Health and Fitness

postby ScarfaceThe91 » 12/10/13 @ 04:03

Waffles wrote:


What. The. Fuck?!

Are crossfit trainers actually secret agents for local hospitals? Because that's all I see in those peoples' future using that terrible of form if that's what crossfit is teaching them. Fucking christ.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby Skinny » 12/10/13 @ 05:14

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In 30 seconds you'll be dead and I'll be home in time for Corn Flakes.
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Re: Health and Fitness

postby CorkSport - Derrick » 12/13/13 @ 18:05

Results on the fasting for 4 weeks.

What I was doing was the 24 hour version every other day. It yielded some interesting results for myself. When you eat again after the 24 hour period you have to be careful on how much food you take in. There were a few times were I was sitting down at the dinner table and realized I ate 3 plates of food. If I lifted weight or did cardio before I ate to break the 24 hour fast my hunger was no where as extreme and it made it easier for me to eat just enough and not go overboard.

So the results are, an average of 3% body fat content lower and my body weight at the same as it was before I started 161.5 lbs.

I haven't noticed any of the clarity or improvements in thought and mind that some people have mentioned (including Ben Franklin) for fasting so far. That is something which I think will be hard to measure.

-Derrick

PS I'm hungry.

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